Is Edwards Moving Toward a New National Service Program?

Last week, Edwards may have started to pre-introduce a National Service program, something like AmeriCorps, but expanded, or maybe tied to his College for Everyone program, or perhaps even made a requirement for teens.

According to The Washington Post in New Hampshire this past weekend:

... Edwards repeated his frequent call for the next president to promote patriotism beyond war....

Edwards also called Monday for spreading the burden of serving the country by mandating national service.

"One of the things we ought to be thinking about is some level of mandatory service to our country, so that everybody in America not just the poor kids who get sent to war are serving this country," he said.

After the event, Edwards said [believes] that everyone should serve [the country] in some way.

Then, yesterday in her DailyKos diary announcing that John will attend YearlyKos, Elizabeth Edwards answered a question about a military draft and mentioned the national community service program Edwards promoted during the 2004 campaign and earlier:

John is not in favor of a military draft. Never has been. When he was in the Senate and in the 2004 campaign, he proposed a national community service program for high school students, modeled on the program at the public school our older children attended. The habit of public service is one that we want to encourage. Whether that means that high school program or a national public service program for all of us -- even those out of high school -- we know we need to think about it, to get all Americans committed in a real and meaningful way in making America as strong and as compassionate as we can. He saw on the Gulf Coast what committed Americans can accomplish, and he dreams big about how much more we could do.
I really hope that a national community service program becomes key part of the 2008 campaign -- either as a requirement for the summer after high-school or during high-school or as part of a voluntary college tuition for service program.

I feel like we missed an opportunity after 9-11 when our heroes were civil servants (police, firefighters and other first-responders) and when millions of Americans donated their blood and their hard-earned wages to help their fellow Americans. And after Katrina when we saw the importance of volunteer organizations in the rescue, relief and rebuilding efforts (because they were abandoned by the federal effort). In these two defining moments of America in the 2000s, we had an opportunity to build a sense of community and to give honor to those that work on behalf of the collective good and we failed. Maybe we can still revive those opportunities.

I'm especially interested in national community service because I think it could reinvigorate a sense of civic-mindedness in the USA and overcome our tendencies toward selfishness and greed. Community service is what the Stoics and the Founders refered to as (in part) Virtue (Virtus to the Romans, Arete to the Greeks). And the very best in Christianity is its push for followers to make their faith real through compassion and service for the community.

I believe that Democrats ought to push public morality (as JRE does, note the recent push on poverty as a moral issue, same with the One America theme) to contrast ourselves with the so-called private morality or the gopers (which of course they don't live up to at all). By reinvigorating Americans sense of Virtue, we attack the black heart of goperism -- that we're each an island in the marketplace without any ties to each other. Rather, we are patriotic American citizens all in this together. That would make peoples lives better and make the Democrats a permanent majority!

National Service might include work in:

  • AmeriCorps AmeriCorps is a network of local, state, and national service programs that connects more than 70,000 Americans each year in intensive service to meet our country's critical needs in education, public safety, health, and the environment. AmeriCorps members serve with more than 2,000 nonprofits, public agencies, and faith-based and community organizations.
  • GreenCorps (within AmeriCorps) A new notion that Edwards mentions in his Energy Plan. Idealistic young Americans can help fight climate change by conducting volunteer energy audits, weatherizing homes, installing home solar panels, and training neighborhood groups to do the same.
  • The Peace Corps Since 1960, more than 187,000 Peace Corps Volunteers have been invited by 139 host countries to work on issues ranging from AIDS education to information technology and environmental preservation. FYI: Kennedy introduced the PeaceCorps on the steps of the Student Union at my beloved University of Michigan.
  • Military service in the Armed Forces
  • OneCorps Of course, Edwards OneCorps community service / political volunteer organization could also transform themselves into options for a national service plan.
  • etc...
  • Kerry had a national service program that he stressed early on in the campaign (in fact, I got a change to talk with Teresa on a rope-line in Grand Rapids after she had discussed national service in her speech and told her how important I thought it was), but it was de-emphasized when Kerry decided to stress deficit reduction. Now is the time to revive this issue -- to be, as Edwards likes to say "patriotic about something more than war."

    Obviously, I think young people have been mobilized as never before because of the soc-nets and the 2004 and 2008 campaign and national service could really be a way to transform this energy into action to change our young people and America for the better.

    Many American teens will find all this quite normal since many high schools require community service as part of graduation (something Edwards has always supported).

    FYI: I've had students who have participated in AmeriCorps and they've had nothing but positive things to say. However, the program is so poorly funded that their admission standards are astronomically high and they turn away thousands and thousands of good prospects.

    PS: Nicholas Beaudrot wrote on Edwards and National Service a few days ago over at Ezra's.

    Crossposted on the John Edwards for President blog and Michigan for Edwards blog.

    Poll
    What are your thoughts on a national service plan?
    I support it as a high school volunteer requirement
    I support it as a requirement for all 18 year-olds for 3 months
    I support it as a requirement for all 18 year-olds for 1 year
    I support it as a voluntary program -- service for tuition
    Other -- add your thoughts in the comments
    I oppose any such program

    Votes: 31
    Results : Vote Link : Polls

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    Re: Is Edwards Moving Toward... (none / 0)

    I am an Edwards supporter, and I like the goals that he is working towards with these proposals, but I am wary of any mandatory service to our government. I also like your distinction between public and private morality - but just like private morality, I don't think public morality should be enforced by the government. Furthermore, I am especially disinclined to support this type of program when it comes from the Federal level.

    I think we should work within the framework that already exists (public high schools) to include more components of public service and participation. I think we need a MUCH stronger emphasis on civics and government education in our later years of high school, and I think that community service, in one form or another, could be mandatory without infringing too much on individual rights. (I figure, we already force kids to do all kinds of things in school, so forcing them to do some community work isn't much of a stretch).

    Post-high school, I think we need a different framework that ensures full individual freedom to make our own choices in life. I think  "college for everyone" is an excellent idea, in that it offers opportunity, and does not dictate life decisions. I think coupling student aid with community service is another good idea, assuming aid is commensurate with service (i.e. - a fair wage, so that students aren't making less `volunteering' than they could be with a traditional job).

    I think other incentive programs to convince people to work towards the betterment of their community could be useful for individuals of all ages - but the key here is that they are not mandatory. We need to work towards a society that encourages and rewards good civic behavior - not one that dictates and legislates civic behavior.


    www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
    by LandStander on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:15:57 PM EST

    Re: Is Edwards Moving (none / 0)

    I'd definitely support a national service program with up to two years of service.


    "And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
    by jallen on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:18:52 PM EST

    Re: Is Edwards Moving (none / 0)

    Mandatory service? From 18-20 years of age?
    That would keep us in a compulsory program for two additional years beyond primary education (which is also mandatory). This would, in effect, push back the age of legal adulthood from 18 to 20 years of age.

    Not that this is a bad thing from a practical point of view - but in terms of personal freedom, it is highly suspect.


    www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
    by LandStander on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:40:51 PM EST
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    Re: Is Edwards Moving (none / 0)

    As a 21 year old who nearly enlisted, and was in the process of applying for ROTC for a while, I have no problem with national service, and no problem with mandatory service if in return the nation is obligated to provide higher education.  I'd be happy to serve the nation in such a program, or in the military, if a real leader (meaning 'not Bush') asked us to serve.


    "And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
    by jallen on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:52:52 PM EST
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    Re: Is Edwards Moving (none / 0)

    That may be fine for YOU, but what about the other tens of millions of youth who may view the world very differently?
    I agree that a reasonable trade off (like service for education) makes a ton of sense, but I am strongly opposed to any mandatory government program past the age of 18.

    You also mention this...

    I'd be happy to serve the nation in such a program, or in the military, if a real leader (meaning 'not Bush') asked us to serve.

    True enough - but would you serve under Obama/Edwards/Clinton if you knew very well that the next president could be another Cowboy Decider Guy? This is one reason I could never serve in the military (or the Foreign Service, which I considered pursuing) - Even if I trust the current leader, I can be pretty sure I won't trust the next one.


    www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
    by LandStander on Tue May 29, 2007 at 03:11:53 PM EST
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    Re: Is Edwards Moving (none / 0)

    Most of my peers already do a lot of volunteer or similar service a lot, and worry about paying for school, so I don't think it'd be a big problem.

    As for who the Commander-in-Chief is, I didn't decide not to join because Bush was the president, or because I didn't want to serve in his war.


    "And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
    by jallen on Tue May 29, 2007 at 03:19:33 PM EST
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    I've advocated this before (none / 0)

    Free ride scholarships to any four year institution in exchange for service.  We already do this for some high demand field, paying tuition for doctors who agree to work in rural areas, for example.  I believe we need to move towards making education easily accessible for all with the desire to go and we also need to do a lot more to instill a sense of civic pride in our citizens.  I can think of no better way to accomplish both than this type of program.


    Sean Robertson
    by Sean Robertson on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:35:15 PM EST

    I strongly support this (3.00 / 3)

    but I think that there need to be a variety of ways to serve.  And I think that the most anyone should be required to serve is 3 months, which dovetails nicely with the summer break for college kids.

    I would like to see this tied with skills training though.  Imagine if young adults had a choice:

    * Of recieving homeland security training to perform vital duties like crisis recovery and such, so that there was a corps of hundreds of thousands of young Americans who could be called up in the event of a national emergency.  This could covert many of the functions of the national guard to a civilian force.

    * Skills training in the fundamentals of carpentry, plumbing, HVAC, or other skills that they would receive a certification for.  This could be implemented through union training programs.  The idea is to give the basis for later skills training if people want to pursue it.

    * A program based upon Americorps dealing specifically with domestic service learning.

    * A program based on Peace Corps doing work abroad.

    Different progams would have different time committments, but they all would emphasize on national service and skills training.


    by ManfromMiddletown on Tue May 29, 2007 at 03:34:15 PM EST

    DLC New National Service Program? (none / 0)

    NOTE:

    "...Military service in the Armed Forces"

    (snip)

    Kerry had a national service program that he stressed early on in the campaign..."

    Getting kids into the military, by any means, is nothing new.

    Hillary, Lieberman and Reed had legislation that advocated making plans to expand our military.  However, it didn't overtly say HOW tho'!

    All very well to tell the kiddies that they choose to go into the peacecorp or the military, but with our perpetual ME War, I'm sure there will be a clause that says tah the government can make the ultimate decision.

    You say it was in Kerry DLC campaign, it was also something that Rahm has pushed in his DLC book...  So I suspect Hillary is in the same boat?  Has any of her fans asked her?

    DLC National Service:

    "...Universal Citizen Service. We need a new patriotism that brings out the patriot in all of us by establishing, for the first time, an ethic of universal citizen service. All Americans between the ages of 18 and 25 should be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic civil defense training and community service. This is not a draft -- nor is it military. Young people will be trained not as soldiers, but simply as citizens who understand their responsibilities in the event of natural disaster, epidemic, or terrorist attack. Universal citizen service will bring Americans of every background together to make America safer and more united in common national purpose..."
    http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid =254084&kaid=131&subid=192

    Murtha: President's Iraq war plan requires draft
    http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Murtha_Pre sidents_Iraq_war_plan_requires_0418.html


    by SandThroughTheEyeGlass on Tue May 29, 2007 at 04:44:41 PM EST

    Re: DLC New National Service Program? (none / 0)

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I'm all for creating a:
    ethic of universal citizen service.
    And there is no way this would be a military draft. Do you know what AmeriCorps does?
    Michigan For Edwards and Labor-Netroots for Edwards
    by philgoblue on Tue May 29, 2007 at 05:06:23 PM EST
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    Re: DLC New National Service Program? (none / 0)

    Do you know the difference between Americorp and Peacecorp?  Don't know can you tell me...

    Universal... meaning that's it not voluntary?  All Americans between the ages of 18 and 25 should be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic civil defense training

    Defense training, currently envisioned as being here, but if the reality of terrorist attacks change (in the dems and Israel's vision) then could maybe the defense program could convert to being over there?  Gotta fill those bases up.


    by SandThroughTheEyeGlass on Tue May 29, 2007 at 05:36:09 PM EST
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    Re: DLC New National Service Program? (3.00 / 1)

    I believe the difference between Americorp and Peacecorp is that Americorp is domestic and Peacecorp is international.


    by Quinton on Tue May 29, 2007 at 11:25:30 PM EST
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    Re: DLC New National Service Program? (none / 0)

    That is correct.


    by adamterando on Tue May 29, 2007 at 11:56:43 PM EST
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    Toward a New National Service Program? (none / 0)

    By the way, I'm for

    B.  Making it a requirement for high school graduates the summer they graduate, before college, jobs, etc.
    I think it would create a patriotic ethic, help folks understand citizenship entails responsibilities, not just rights, and help people out of their racial and economic enclaves and see how all of America lives.  But a year or two seems too long.

    C.  Then the program could continue for folks who want some tuition grants in return for community service during the school year.


    Michigan For Edwards and Labor-Netroots for Edwards
    by philgoblue on Tue May 29, 2007 at 05:09:48 PM EST


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